{"id":337,"date":"2005-10-28T23:26:00","date_gmt":"2005-10-28T23:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/estrangements.com\/theblog\/2005\/10\/28\/about_subjects_\/"},"modified":"2005-10-28T23:26:00","modified_gmt":"2005-10-28T23:26:00","slug":"about_subjects_","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/estrangements.com\/theblog\/2005\/10\/28\/about_subjects_\/","title":{"rendered":"<h2>About subjects of posts and sociopaths, NPD and that wedding &#8230;<\/h2>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It has been alleged by Robin that I visit her website every day. <\/p>\n<p>No. I visit it on occasion. Sometimes months go by without my visiting it. Robin is a Drama Queen. She calls this &quot;stalking&quot;. Puhleeze!!!<\/p>\n<p>She has suggested that the fact that I talk about murders of families might mean that I would hurt her. <\/p>\n<p>No. That is absurd. I talk about murders of families for two reasons. One is that I am always fascinated by the contrast between the private person and the public person. Between how some people seem so very normal and then they go and do something so contrary to everyone&#8217;s expectations of them. <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>My interest in these persons has nothing whatever to do with Robin<br \/>\nother than that she has estranged herself from me and that was quite<br \/>\ncontrary to anything I had ever expected from her. But other than that,<br \/>\nno, it has nothing to do with my own family. The other reason is that I<br \/>\nam fascinated with mysteries that involve crimes. This also has nothing<br \/>\nwhatever to do with Robin. Not everything is about her. I, along with a<br \/>\nzillion other people, enjoy trying to figure out why or who did this or<br \/>\nthat evil deed. Here is the link for my favorite blog about missing<br \/>\npersons and crimes. It is called The Dark Side. (Note: The Dark Side no longer exists but the blogger who had had the Dark Side has a new blog on crime: <a href=\"http:\/\/crimeblog.us\">crimeblog.us.<\/a>)<a href=\"http:\/\/www.planethuff.com\/darkside\/\">&nbsp;<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>However, speaking of murder, Robin stated that her father warned her<br \/>\nnot to put Robert as a beneficiary on an insurance policy as he might<br \/>\nmurder her to get the money. This is interesting because when I was<br \/>\nleaving her father, he wanted me to get a life insurance policy and<br \/>\nname him as beneficiary! Since I hadn&#8217;t fallen off a turnip truck that<br \/>\nday, I did not take out the insurance policy and did see the<br \/>\nimplications behind why he might want me to get one. Long before Robert<br \/>\nwas even in the picture, my ex had thought of that idea all on his own.<br \/>\nInteresting that he would tell Robin to watch out for that.<\/p>\n<p>Robin called her father a sociopath and a narcissist. I never<br \/>\nconsidered him a sociopath as he does have feelings. He just doesn&#8217;t<br \/>\nexpress them or maybe even feel them right away. He might talk about a<br \/>\nfeeling months after the event that caused it. Or that is how it<br \/>\nseemed. I never saw him do things that seemed like a sociopath other<br \/>\nthan ask me to buy an insurance policy when I was leaving him. That<br \/>\nMIGHT be sociopathic. He did tell me that he was having fantasies of<br \/>\nmurdering me but then we were divorcing and people can get some pretty<br \/>\nwild ideas in the middle of a divorce. I don&#8217;t think it makes him<br \/>\nsociopathic. Not that I usually defend him.<\/p>\n<p>As far as having Narcissistic Personality Disorder. they always say<br \/>\nthat a professional has to diagnose it. But some people just seem to<br \/>\nfit all the criteria. I have wondered about that in my ex but didn&#8217;t<br \/>\nreally think it was so. Image is important to him and it sounds as<br \/>\nthough it is important to his second wife. But whether it rises to the<br \/>\nlevel of Narcissistic Personality Disorder for my ex, I don&#8217;t know. I<br \/>\nhave read a number of good books on NPD because we have some friends<br \/>\nwho seem to have all the criteria for NPD and they are much more<br \/>\nnarcissistic than my ex seemed. <\/p>\n<p>When I left my ex, I learned how much I didn&#8217;t know. I had been<br \/>\nmarried to him for 18 years but then felt as though I didn&#8217;t know him<br \/>\nat all.<\/p>\n<p>I made a mistake in allowing Robin to live in the house after I<br \/>\nleft. She witnessed his grief and pain over the separation and divorce.<br \/>\nShe never witnessed mine. I never allowed her to see me cry. She has no<br \/>\nway of knowing how much I cried or how much pain I was in. She has no<br \/>\nway of knowing that I am vulnerable and that I hurt. She has never seen<br \/>\nme show much weakness. This was a mistake on my part, to let her stay<br \/>\nthere. I think she might have felt that I was abandoning her,<br \/>\nespecially when my tiny apartment didn&#8217;t have room for her. I was<br \/>\nfreaked out at the time that I would not be able to support myself and<br \/>\ntook the smallest cheapest apartment I could find and it didn&#8217;t have a<br \/>\nseparate room for her. When she visited there and didn&#8217;t see another<br \/>\nroom, I cringed and felt guilty that I might have hurt her. It was<br \/>\nNEVER my intention and my only reason for taking that apartment was my<br \/>\nfear of not being able to make the payments on a better one. I knew<br \/>\nthat I would get no money from Tony.<\/p>\n<p>She has never experienced a divorce and I hope she never will. Since<br \/>\nshe has a strong bond with Robert, they may always be together.<br \/>\nHowever, if she had experienced what it is like to leave or be left,<br \/>\nand not just witnessed it as a daughter, she might have more empathy<br \/>\nfor why people talk and act the way that they do when they divorce. Why<br \/>\nthey do stupid things. I did plenty of stupid things, including being a<br \/>\njerk about the Mercedes that we drove to her wedding 6 years later.<br \/>\nYes, I was a jerk about the Mercedes. <\/p>\n<p>I knew my ex adored cars. I was never that into cars but due to a<br \/>\nstory that is too long and uninteresting my second husband and I ended<br \/>\nup with this Mercedes and I wanted to shove that Mercedes right up<br \/>\nTony&#8217;s nose because he had been such a pain in the butt by not talking<br \/>\nto me and not trying to be friends. So I was a jerk. So bite me! I am<br \/>\nnot the first woman to act like a jerk after a divorce and I won&#8217;t be<br \/>\nthe last. My ex acted like a jerk and I acted like a jerk. We are human<br \/>\nand sometimes we&#8217;re stupid. If someone could walk in my shoes at that<br \/>\ntime, they might have driven the Mercedes right across my ex&#8217;s lawn! It<br \/>\nwasn&#8217;t the worst thing I&#8217;ve done and it is a pretty minor thing. I&#8217;m<br \/>\nsure it was irritating. I recall that it was my sister-in-law that I<br \/>\ndragged outside to show off the Mercedes. Yes, a jerky thing to do!<br \/>\nSome would call this human but then others would call it mental<br \/>\nillness. I wonder if they institutionalize many people for being jerks<br \/>\ntowards their ex-spouses?<\/p>\n<p>When someone acts like a jerk, as I had, it might make sense to let<br \/>\nthem know, kindly, that they are acting like a jerk. It doesn&#8217;t take<br \/>\nmuch to clue me in. I know when I&#8217;ve been a jerk and it is embarrassing<br \/>\nto think back on. I can&#8217;t imagine that Robin has been so perfect in her<br \/>\nlife that she has never done a jerky thing. In fact she has told me<br \/>\nabout some pretty jerky things that she has done that were downright<br \/>\nalarming!<\/p>\n<p><em>(Note added Nov. 5: When I used the words, &quot;Bite me!&quot; above and<br \/>\nwhen I said in another post that &quot;Shit happens.&quot; my daughter reacted by<br \/>\nstating that she wouldn&#8217;t accept an apology that had those words in it.<br \/>\nWell, that&#8217;s fine. In the unlikely event that I ever even speak to her<br \/>\nagain, I will remember that. But in the context of what I was saying<br \/>\nabove in this post and in the other post, I was not making an apology.<br \/>\nI was describing what happened and why. I was admitting that of course<br \/>\nI make mistakes and act like a jerk as we all do. My daughter has taken<br \/>\nthis information and used it to attack me further rather than accepting<br \/>\nmy admitting my human foibles.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>So anyway, some people reconcile when they realize that what their<br \/>\nestranged person has done is something that they can eventually<br \/>\nunderstand and empathize with. For some people it&#8217;s when they have kids<br \/>\nthat they realize that their parents aren&#8217;t so bad. For others it is<br \/>\nwhen they get a divorce and things get crazy and then they realize that<br \/>\ntheir mother or father had a reason to behave as they had. They learn<br \/>\nempathy. They forgive and put things in a proper scale. <\/p>\n<p>Jennifer Aniston recently reconciled with her mother after a 9 year<br \/>\nestrangement. Jennifer was divorcing Brad Pitt and learned in the<br \/>\nprocess that maybe her mother wasn&#8217;t such a bad person. <\/p>\n<p>Online article:&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/news.softpedia.com\/news\/Jennifer-Aniston-Made-Peace-With-Her-Mother-9956.shtml\">Jennifer Aniston Makes Peace with her Mother, October 2005<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t and wouldn&#8217;t recommend divorce for Robin just so that she<br \/>\ncould learn some empathy and I can&#8217;t and wouldn&#8217;t recommend children. I<br \/>\ncan&#8217;t recommend anything as she seems to think she knows it all and<br \/>\nthat is the end of the story. All I can do is hope that life eventually<br \/>\nteaches her that her mom is a lot more normal than she thinks and that<br \/>\nwe have a lot of life left that could be lived with each other in it<br \/>\ndoing some things together.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve had life sober me up plenty along the way. Most people do grow as they get older. I know I have.<\/p>\n<p>I do wish the best for Robin. I am happy for her that she is moving<br \/>\nto that beautiful house. It looks lovely and is in a great location.<br \/>\nAnd I am happy that she has found a career she likes. I am happy that<br \/>\nher and Robert are so happy in their marriage. That is great news, all<br \/>\nof it. The only irony is that I am happy too and would like to be able<br \/>\nto share our happiness together. But for some reason she is convinced<br \/>\nthat I am a miserable mean and ugly person who wishes her nothing but<br \/>\nbad stuff. There are times I&#8217;ve been angry and exasperated with her but<br \/>\nfor good reason. It isn&#8217;t easy being estranged, especially if you care<br \/>\nabout the person who has estranged you. There are days that you are<br \/>\nvery angry and there are days you have all kinds of feelings. But the<br \/>\nanger isn&#8217;t there to be mean. It is there because you miss the person<br \/>\nand want things to be different.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, enough of this ramble. Night all,<br \/>\nSnicks<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It has been alleged by Robin that I visit her website every day. No. I visit it on occasion. Sometimes months go by without my visiting it. Robin is a Drama Queen. She calls this &quot;stalking&quot;. Puhleeze!!! 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